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Silent Light or Absolute Miracle An Interview with Carlos Reygadas at Cannes 2007 A striking division in the Cannes film festival this year: between films that offer dark, bleak (read: despairing, nihilistic) views of cruel reality and those that offer an imaginative breakthrough. We had films about abortion in Ceausescu's Romania (the Palme d'Or), and films about miracles that transform people lives, and give them a renewed will to love and live anew.
In the most cinematic scene of the entire festival, the wife dies of grief, crouched in the rain, under wet leaves, while the sound of pounding rain goes loud and a red umbrella flies open and empty into the distance. Her husband carries her dead body in the rain to his truck, sobbing. It is an emotionally riveting moment that grabs the audience and more then makes up for the slow beginning of the film (which put some spectators to sleep and which it seems Reygadas will now edit in the released version). From here on, we are obsessed with Johan's grief, as he and his children say goodbye to the stiff whitened body of his wife, lying in a coffin, in a stark white room. The mistress in a surprise moment asks permission to visit the corpse, and it is then that a miracle happens. Director Reygadas was in the audience when it stood up in thunderous applause and gave him a standing ovation, much of the public screaming "Bravo" in tears. His film was the only entry at Cannes that received such an intense response. It shows, as he put later in our interview, that people are hungry for belief, for miracle, for transcendence. "I lived in Europe for twelve years," he later said. "I left because it is spiritually dead. People in Europe live in fear." Reygadas' previous film Battala en Cielo also received thunderous applause and a standing ovation. The director knows how to emotionally affect, through music and visuals, his audience. This previous film traced a strange configuration of murder and sex, through intense shots of pained faces and vulnerable bodies, all to the intense chords of Beethoven. But Silent Light goes far beyond the first: its simple story, its moral fiber, its depth of vision make for an achievement worthy of his predecessor in the field of miracles, Carl Dreyer. "Congratulations," I said when I greeted Reygadas three years since his last movie on the roof of the Noga Hilton. "You simplified and you did it . . ." "I know," he said. He was a bit thinner and more wiry this time, but calmer. KARIN LUISA BADT: How does your film thwart the concept of "time"? You have the clock ticking loudly in the beginning, and then you have comments on the impossibility of time going backwards, but then it does.
And your own belief? When I was a boy, I asked my mother all the time about death, and what happens afterwards. Sometimes I wanted to be an atheist, I managed, but I didn't really believe. I wanted to be an atheist, but I believed despite myself. And yet Battala en Cielo does not demonstrate this faith. Has something changed? Both of my films have a sense of redemption; life can be really hard, but wonderful, in both. What is your technique when it comes to aesthetics? I plan the movement of the camera and the movement of the characters. I use non-actors. I make sure my characters know their texts by heart. We don't do rehearsals. Many times the first take is the best. I believe this is the best way to do it for my films. Only a non-actor can represent the kind of characters I have. I also have a lot of shots of movement, in tractors for example, to move from scene to scene. For example, the traveling forward in the garage, the traveling forward in the shower. Things like that happen without me planning it. It is a way to approach each moment little by little. It leaves you space to enter the frame and imagine what is going on. In Hollywood, in classical movies, they always started with the building. You get into the sound and space of the frame, the whole world. Each place demanded that the camera be placed in a certain place. Most of the film is shot frontally and laterally, because the place and the people demanded it. The people are Germanic and Protestant; they are visually homogenous and clean. They take the Bible literally, to take dominion over the land and propagate. Your film is quiet yet quite intense. I hate the idea that film is actually telling a story! The great part of film is to make you feel, not by the narrative. For example, the first shot of my film is cinematic. The light itself is beautiful. In literature, that does not exist. You can just write: "The sun came up." The beauty in my film is the sun itself. You don't have to recreate it. I also like the white light that she sees when she wakes up. Pure white. We worked with particular lenses to do it. Your opening shot where the sun rises is considered the best opening shot of the festival.
And land you seem to love the landscape in your film. As a child I grew up in Mexico City, with lots of time in the countryside on a ranch with my family. I went on tractors like the one in the film. My favorite scene is the rain scene. The reason I have a rain scene is because we have intense rain like that in Mexico. Why Mennonites? I am not particularly interested in Mennonites. I like that they are so uniform, so monolithic. They are all dressed the same. They are archetypes: the mother, grandmother, children. This way, I could concentrate on the essential: the love story. It is a difficult triangle. Here there is a divided heart: a man who really loves both. Everyone feels compassion for each other. The other woman wakes up the wife in an act of compassion. Christ died on the cross for us. It is the same for her. She did this for the love of her man. August 2007 | Issue 57 ALSO: More interviews |
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